John S Gorse

Male 1845 - 1920


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  • Name  John S Gorse 
    Born  18 Apr 1845  Hamburg, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender  Male 
    Died  11 Dec 1920  Ft Scott, Bourbon Co., KS Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID  I235  Seaver-Bilyeu-Lowell
    Last Modified  27 Nov 2011 

    Father  Carl Gorse 
    Mother  Eliza 
    Family ID  F469  Group Sheet

    Family  Elizabeth Routs,   b. 29 Sep 1846, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 14 Jul 1920, Ft Scott, Bourbon Co., KS Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married  1870  Kansas City, Wyandotte Co., KS Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Notes 
    • After they were married, they lived in Buller, MO, for a while in a tent (probably construction work). A storm blew their tent away, and they lost their wedding certificate in the storm.
    Children 
     1. Emma Laura Gorse,   b. 29 Sep 1878,   d. 16 Apr 1959
     2. Mary Elizabeth Gorse,   b. 08 Nov 1871, Richards, Vernon Co., MO Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 04 Jan 1920, Dexter, Cowley Co., KS Find all individuals with events at this location
    >3. Charles Gorse,   b. Apr 1874, Richards, Vernon Co., MO Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 17 Oct 1907, Kansas City, Jackson Co., MO Find all individuals with events at this location
     4. William H. Gorse,   b. Dec 1874, MO Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1954, Mulberry, Crawford Co., KS Find all individuals with events at this location
    >5. Oma Gorse,   b. Dec 1876, Richards, Vernon Co., MO Find all individuals with events at this location
    >6. Frank Herman Gorse,   b. 07 Jul 1881, Clayton, Vernon Co., Mo Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 31 Mar 1968, Deerfield, Vernon Co., MO Find all individuals with events at this location
    >7. Edith May Gorse,   b. 28 Dec 1882, MO Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 9 Oct 1963, Ft Scott, Bourbon Co., KS Find all individuals with events at this location
    Photos
    The Gorse family
    The Gorse family
    L-R: Charlie, Edith, Frank (sitting), Emma, William, Oma, Elizabeth (Hood), and John Gorse. I may have Emma and Oma switched around.
    Documents
    Census: Gorses, 1900 Federal Census
    Census: Gorses, 1900 Federal Census
    A portion of the 1900 United States Federal Census recording John & Elizabeth, Oma, Elsie, & Frank Gorse, and Ira Wintford, Edith (Gorse), & Roy Seaver living in Coal Twp, Vernon Co., MO, in 1900. Elsie is Oma's daughter. "Next door" is William and Maggie Gorse.
    Family ID  F077  Group Sheet

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBorn - 18 Apr 1845 - Hamburg, Germany Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarried - 1870 - Kansas City, Wyandotte Co., KS Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDied - 11 Dec 1920 - Ft Scott, Bourbon Co., KS Link to Google Earth
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  • Photos
    John and Elizabeth (Hood) Gorse
    John and Elizabeth (Hood) Gorse
    With their horses in front of their barn.
    John and Elizabeth (Hood) Gorse
    John and Elizabeth (Hood) Gorse
    Same house as the 1890 group photo.

    Documents

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    John Gorse's obituary
    John Gorse's obituary
    Census: Gorses, 1900 Federal Census
    Census: Gorses, 1900 Federal Census
    A portion of the 1900 United States Federal Census recording John & Elizabeth, Oma, Elsie, & Frank Gorse, and Ira Wintford, Edith (Gorse), & Roy Seaver living in Coal Twp, Vernon Co., MO, in 1900. Elsie is Oma's daughter. "Next door" is William and Maggie Gorse.
    Census: Gorse, John & Elizabeth, 1920 Federal Census
    Census: Gorse, John & Elizabeth, 1920 Federal Census
    A portion of the 1920 United States Federal Census recording John and Elizabeth (Hood) Gorse living in Coal Twp, Vernon Co., MO, in 1920.

  • Notes 
    • [Written by grandson Roy Seaver]: Grandpa Gorse
      came from Hamburg at about 21 years of age to avoid the
      "draft" there. Was a stow-away on a sail ship that was 5
      weeks getting to America. It came down the St. Laurence
      River to Buffalo, New York and froze in the river about a
      mile from shore in January 1867. They had to haul the
      freight to shore on the ice with oxen and sleds. He had
      less than a dollar when he landed here. One of his first
      jobs was a pick and shovel job. He didn't know our language
      and he was so glad he had a job and was working too hard!
      One of his co-workers tried to get him to slow down. He
      couldn't understand him. The man got more firm, louder!
      Grandpa thought he was cussing him and drew back his shovel
      to hit the man and the man smiled and showed him by signs
      and motions not to work so hard but watch the boss and rest
      while his head was turned and when he looked around work!
      He had to work his way across on the ship; and while
      way out on the horizontal boom or sail pole that extends
      out past the side of the ship, the ship rocked way over his
      way and "doused" him under and he thought he would have to
      turn loose and come up for air, but the ship rocked back in
      time.
      One time he was trying to get a job in a Methodist
      Community. After trying several places and was asked if he
      was a church member (Methodist) he said no. He then decided
      if he got a job he would have to be a "Methodist". So the
      next place he asked for a job they, as usual asked if he
      belonged to a church (Now grandpas talked awful "broken
      German" in my time) and so he told them yes, he was a
      METT-I-TUST; and he got the job but had to go to church with
      them every Sunday.
      After getting home from church they would get a keg of
      whiskey out and all had a drink!! He died of a cancer of
      the stomach December 11, 1920. He had a driving mare named
      Mabel. He wanted me to "curry" her. He said for me to
      "Scratch" ol "Maple" while Grant ma got breakfast. One
      time he almost got stuck with his team coming up a hill.
      He said; "Dey couldn't hardly pull de hill up."
      If us grand children weren't behaving he would say:
      "naw-naw-naw-ta-sa-sa." We didn't know what it meant, but
      we sure knew enough to behave. He was always good to us tho.
      (Obituary written by Roy Seaver (grandson) Dec. 1920)
      JOHN GORSE
      John Gorse was born in Hamburg, Germany on April 8, 1845 and died on Dec. 11, 1920
      five miles East of town at the home of his daughter, Mrs. I. W. Seaver, Having been
      bedfast for about four weeks. Death was due to a cancer,
      Mr. Gorse came to this country in January 1866, having been something like 13 weeks
      on the trip.
      He worked on the farm in the Eastern states, later coming West, helped build what is
      now the Frisco, also the Katy Railroads.
      John Gorse was married in Kansas City in the year 1870 to miss Elizabeth Hood.
      Later they lived in Eldorado, Kansas. Finally moving to a farm just across the State
      line in Mo, on the Nevada road, where they lived some 43 years. In the spring of 1920
      they moved to Ft. Scott where his wife died on July 14, 1920.
      Some six or seven weeks ago he came to make his home with his daughter, Mrs. I.W.Seaver,
      where he resided at the time of his death.
      He is survived by two sons, Frank of Deerfield, Mo., and Will of Minden Mines, Mo.
      and three daughters, Mrs. Oma Cutler of Salina, Kans., Mrs, Emma Harris of Kansas City, Mo.,
      and Mrs. Edith Seaver of east of Ft. Scott.
      Two children preceded their parents to the grave, Charlie some 13 years ago and
      Mrs. Mary Johnson on Jan, 4, 1320