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 1845 - 1920
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| Name |
John S Gorse |
| Born |
18 Apr 1845 |
Hamburg, Germany  |
| Gender |
Male |
| Died |
11 Dec 1920 |
Ft Scott, Bourbon Co., KS |
| Person ID |
I235 |
Seaver-Bilyeu-Lowell |
| Last Modified |
27 Nov 2011 |
| Family |
Elizabeth Routs, b. 29 Sep 1846, Germany , d. 14 Jul 1920, Ft Scott, Bourbon Co., KS |
| Married |
1870 |
Kansas City, Wyandotte Co., KS |
| Notes |
- After they were married, they lived in Buller, MO, for a while in a tent (probably construction work). A storm blew their tent away, and they lost their wedding certificate in the storm.
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| Children |
| | 1. Emma Laura Gorse, b. 29 Sep 1878, d. 16 Apr 1959 |
| | 2. Mary Elizabeth Gorse, b. 08 Nov 1871, Richards, Vernon Co., MO , d. 04 Jan 1920, Dexter, Cowley Co., KS |
| > | 3. Charles Gorse, b. Apr 1874, Richards, Vernon Co., MO , d. 17 Oct 1907, Kansas City, Jackson Co., MO |
| | 4. William H. Gorse, b. Dec 1874, MO , d. 1954, Mulberry, Crawford Co., KS |
| > | 5. Oma Gorse, b. Dec 1876, Richards, Vernon Co., MO |
| > | 6. Frank Herman Gorse, b. 07 Jul 1881, Clayton, Vernon Co., Mo , d. 31 Mar 1968, Deerfield, Vernon Co., MO |
| > | 7. Edith May Gorse, b. 28 Dec 1882, MO , d. 9 Oct 1963, Ft Scott, Bourbon Co., KS |
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| Photos |
 | The Gorse family
L-R: Charlie, Edith, Frank (sitting), Emma, William, Oma, Elizabeth (Hood), and John Gorse. I may have Emma and Oma switched around. |
| Documents |
 | Census: Gorses, 1900 Federal Census
A portion of the 1900 United States Federal Census recording John & Elizabeth, Oma, Elsie, & Frank Gorse, and Ira Wintford, Edith (Gorse), & Roy Seaver living in Coal Twp, Vernon Co., MO, in 1900. Elsie is Oma's daughter. "Next door" is William and Maggie Gorse. |
| Family ID |
F077 |
Group Sheet |
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 | John Gorse's obituary
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| Census: Gorses, 1900 Federal Census
A portion of the 1900 United States Federal Census recording John & Elizabeth, Oma, Elsie, & Frank Gorse, and Ira Wintford, Edith (Gorse), & Roy Seaver living in Coal Twp, Vernon Co., MO, in 1900. Elsie is Oma's daughter. "Next door" is William and Maggie Gorse. |
 | Census: Gorse, John & Elizabeth, 1920 Federal Census
A portion of the 1920 United States Federal Census recording John and Elizabeth (Hood) Gorse living in Coal Twp, Vernon Co., MO, in 1920. |
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| Notes |
- [Written by grandson Roy Seaver]: Grandpa Gorse
came from Hamburg at about 21 years of age to avoid the
"draft" there. Was a stow-away on a sail ship that was 5
weeks getting to America. It came down the St. Laurence
River to Buffalo, New York and froze in the river about a
mile from shore in January 1867. They had to haul the
freight to shore on the ice with oxen and sleds. He had
less than a dollar when he landed here. One of his first
jobs was a pick and shovel job. He didn't know our language
and he was so glad he had a job and was working too hard!
One of his co-workers tried to get him to slow down. He
couldn't understand him. The man got more firm, louder!
Grandpa thought he was cussing him and drew back his shovel
to hit the man and the man smiled and showed him by signs
and motions not to work so hard but watch the boss and rest
while his head was turned and when he looked around work!
He had to work his way across on the ship; and while
way out on the horizontal boom or sail pole that extends
out past the side of the ship, the ship rocked way over his
way and "doused" him under and he thought he would have to
turn loose and come up for air, but the ship rocked back in
time.
One time he was trying to get a job in a Methodist
Community. After trying several places and was asked if he
was a church member (Methodist) he said no. He then decided
if he got a job he would have to be a "Methodist". So the
next place he asked for a job they, as usual asked if he
belonged to a church (Now grandpas talked awful "broken
German" in my time) and so he told them yes, he was a
METT-I-TUST; and he got the job but had to go to church with
them every Sunday.
After getting home from church they would get a keg of
whiskey out and all had a drink!! He died of a cancer of
the stomach December 11, 1920. He had a driving mare named
Mabel. He wanted me to "curry" her. He said for me to
"Scratch" ol "Maple" while Grant ma got breakfast. One
time he almost got stuck with his team coming up a hill.
He said; "Dey couldn't hardly pull de hill up."
If us grand children weren't behaving he would say:
"naw-naw-naw-ta-sa-sa." We didn't know what it meant, but
we sure knew enough to behave. He was always good to us tho.
(Obituary written by Roy Seaver (grandson) Dec. 1920)
JOHN GORSE
John Gorse was born in Hamburg, Germany on April 8, 1845 and died on Dec. 11, 1920
five miles East of town at the home of his daughter, Mrs. I. W. Seaver, Having been
bedfast for about four weeks. Death was due to a cancer,
Mr. Gorse came to this country in January 1866, having been something like 13 weeks
on the trip.
He worked on the farm in the Eastern states, later coming West, helped build what is
now the Frisco, also the Katy Railroads.
John Gorse was married in Kansas City in the year 1870 to miss Elizabeth Hood.
Later they lived in Eldorado, Kansas. Finally moving to a farm just across the State
line in Mo, on the Nevada road, where they lived some 43 years. In the spring of 1920
they moved to Ft. Scott where his wife died on July 14, 1920.
Some six or seven weeks ago he came to make his home with his daughter, Mrs. I.W.Seaver,
where he resided at the time of his death.
He is survived by two sons, Frank of Deerfield, Mo., and Will of Minden Mines, Mo.
and three daughters, Mrs. Oma Cutler of Salina, Kans., Mrs, Emma Harris of Kansas City, Mo.,
and Mrs. Edith Seaver of east of Ft. Scott.
Two children preceded their parents to the grave, Charlie some 13 years ago and
Mrs. Mary Johnson on Jan, 4, 1320
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